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Hillary and Obama welcome right-wing voters

Filed under: 2008 election, Politics — Lance at 12:54 am on Wednesday, February 6, 2008

I know I have never been a fan of the talk radio zombies but I have to laugh at some of their theories about how voting for Clinton or Obama over McCain is better for their interests. It is strung together over seemingly one issue. I know this is going to come to a surprise but that key issue isn’t gay marriage, abortion or flag burning, it is immigration. Their argument goes as follows:


McCain wins and becomes de facto party leader and sets an agenda to offer amnesty to everyone, opens the flood gates to der illegals, etc… Let’s ignore previous statements McCain has made saying that he wants to secure the border before making any changes to immigration policy as these people think he is lying. Let’s also ignore the fact that all of these people who prompted the outrage over the last immigration bill would allow their representatives and senators to forget about it or that these congresspeople would forget about the earful they got before.

No no, apparently the rest of the Republican party is so weak backboned (and apparently already admitting defeat in congress) that they cannot take on an old man with no ability to pass legislation. They will be “forced” to go along with immigration policy.

Now they argue if a Democrat is elected, Republicans will actually grow a spine and fight against it and not allow it to happen.

They believe this is the heart and soul of conservatism being lost here with McCain. Seriously, you just have to listen.

My argument:

Nobody is going to do anything about immigration in the next four years (or they will try and not be successful). I’ll call the same thing for social security and health care. It is too difficult and people like talking about it but not doing anything about it. In the last eight years, only one of those things got touched (health care) and I wouldn’t say it was that significant of a change (except for the cost of course but we could say that about all the government).
Given that case (and looking at historic government productivity, I think it is a good gamble) on those major issues, it doesn’t matter who we elect out of the four front runners. I don’t know where these dummies get the logic that Romney would be able to pass anything given that they’ve already given up on a Republican controlled congress.

In any case, Obama and Clinton welcome your voice of support and your vote talk radio followers. And if you think you’re sticking it to McCain or his supporters (which I would call myself a casual one), then that’s your prerogative.  But let’s get one thing straight:

I don’t really care about a Clinton or Obama presidency as much as you hope I should. And if I am a dumbass moderate conservative selling my soul to McCain and I don’t care if my opponents win (the exact argument you yourselves are making), then shouldn’t that, of all things, give you pause?

If you think Clinton or Obama will serve your interests or the interests of this country the best, then by all means, vote for them. Conservative or liberal, that’s one of the great things about this process is that you ultimately get a say and you can go outside of party lines to do it.

If you think voting for Clinton or Obama in the general will hurt my feelings or make me feel any anxiety about you as a person or as a conservative or liberal, it won’t. And I realize this is very dual party oriented so if you’re voting third party or not voting at all, same goes for you.

What the far-right proves to me with these calls for voting for a Democrat are elementary school tactics that says “We ask for unity when it is our chosen candidate but reneg if a candidate isn’t our number one choice.” And if they want to be children about it, then let them be children, let them vote for Clinton or Obama and when they seemingly turn around the next day to complain about the person they elected into office, I am not going to let them off the hook.

That may seem spiteful and elementary in and of itself but for the last couple years, I’ve started to regret more and more my votes for Bush. I am angry about it. I was asked to support a candidate that I didn’t fully agree with but who brought the most chips to the table for conservatism. Or so I am told. I am angry with myself for being swindled into supporting him. I am angry at compromising that far with him in particular. But I am most angry that these so called true conservatives of talk radio wouldn’t blink once about making anyone compromise for another Bush while they themselves would never consider it for themselves.

That’s a hypocritical position if I’ve ever heard one from these morons. And as you can probably tell, I’ve had enough.

So vote Democratic this year. If McCain loses, it will be a very abbreviated mourning period followed by the quiet resolution of pointing out every complaint talk radio has about the president is due to their juvenile hissy fit. And when you jackals ask me to support your next chump candidate endorsed by the talk radio airwaves due to some sort of implied party loyalty, I will laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh.

And I know some people have legitimate complaints about all of the issues I have brought up here (including issues specifically with McCain) and I am not in the mood to back link my own posts in an effort to prove I understand it. I am talking about bogus reasons, thinly veiled threats and other shit talk radio is trying to argue and that some percentage of the populace has picked up on and started parroting around like a bunch of buffoons.

It is also my understanding that there are a lot of people who are getting newly introduced to politics due to the excitement of this primary process and might actually read this post. Please, do not read any more into this post than I have written. I have noticed instances where political novices seem to get hurt about what the mean man on the internets said. Unless you actually agree with talk radio and you read through my post and you still agree with talk radio, I don’t have a problem with your stance. And if you seriously still agree with talk radio, I don’t know what to tell you. I disagree almost to the point of actually caring enough to spend more time lecturing you about why it is such an asinine belief to vote against your best interests and hope the 18 different things that have to go right for it to succeed actually work. I mean the least you could do is run or vote for a third party candidate that actually reflects your beliefs, that’s just plain laziness.

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